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		<title>By: Max Heim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Heim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still kind of think Loyd is giving short shrift to MMOs. Playing through an MMO with friends on a LAN or via headphones and Skype on the internet are not really that different. And I think Loyd enjoyed GW and HGL (discounting the bugs and crashes). Most MMOs are good single-player games, too (not much different than Oblivion or Dragon Age), though you do need to group up now and then for instances or raids (there&#039;s your LAN night...).

The similarities between, say, WoW and Borderlands are much greater than the differences, especially if you aren&#039;t into PvP.

And there has never been a story-based multiplayer RPG with the depth and scope of LOTRo. 

Griefing is not really a problem that I&#039;ve seen. I mean, the worst griefing I ever had in WoW was a couple level 70s with flying mounts that would circle the spawn camp in a PvP area, and that was only a problem because I was trying to stick my nose in as a low 60 groundling. I think it&#039;s a much bigger problem in pickup games, particularly online shooters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still kind of think Loyd is giving short shrift to MMOs. Playing through an MMO with friends on a LAN or via headphones and Skype on the internet are not really that different. And I think Loyd enjoyed GW and HGL (discounting the bugs and crashes). Most MMOs are good single-player games, too (not much different than Oblivion or Dragon Age), though you do need to group up now and then for instances or raids (there&#8217;s your LAN night&#8230;).</p>
<p>The similarities between, say, WoW and Borderlands are much greater than the differences, especially if you aren&#8217;t into PvP.</p>
<p>And there has never been a story-based multiplayer RPG with the depth and scope of LOTRo. </p>
<p>Griefing is not really a problem that I&#8217;ve seen. I mean, the worst griefing I ever had in WoW was a couple level 70s with flying mounts that would circle the spawn camp in a PvP area, and that was only a problem because I was trying to stick my nose in as a low 60 groundling. I think it&#8217;s a much bigger problem in pickup games, particularly online shooters.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Loyd; I find the enjoyment factor much greater with LAN games than MMOs.  And most of my gaming time is still single-player.  Replaying Fallout 3 now with the Fallout Wanderers&#039; Edition mod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Loyd; I find the enjoyment factor much greater with LAN games than MMOs.  And most of my gaming time is still single-player.  Replaying Fallout 3 now with the Fallout Wanderers&#8217; Edition mod.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, you young kids don&#039;t appreciate what us old folks were able to do.   Back in college around 1984 I lived in a big house and had a buddy down the hall who also owned a TRS-80 (model 1 with 2Mhz Z80). 
http://www.trs-80.com/trs80-models-model1.htm
We strung a serial cable about 100 feet and were able to play a game called &quot;Combat&quot; in multiplayer.  Of course, long before that we were playing multiplayer games on the &quot;mainframe&quot;.  You may need to find someone with grey hair to explain what that is... :-)
Yes, it was pretty lame compared to today, but it&#039;s amazing what you&#039;ll put up with if you don&#039;t have another option...

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, you young kids don&#8217;t appreciate what us old folks were able to do.   Back in college around 1984 I lived in a big house and had a buddy down the hall who also owned a TRS-80 (model 1 with 2Mhz Z80).<br />
<a href="http://www.trs-80.com/trs80-models-model1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.trs-80.com/trs80-models-model1.htm</a><br />
We strung a serial cable about 100 feet and were able to play a game called &#8220;Combat&#8221; in multiplayer.  Of course, long before that we were playing multiplayer games on the &#8220;mainframe&#8221;.  You may need to find someone with grey hair to explain what that is&#8230; <img src='http://www.improbableinsights.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Yes, it was pretty lame compared to today, but it&#8217;s amazing what you&#8217;ll put up with if you don&#8217;t have another option&#8230;</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Champion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Champion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I lived in the dorms while I was in the military, the rooms were set up so that two rooms facing opposite sides of the building shared a common bathroom in between. My friend and I switched rooms with other people until we got attached rooms and we ran our network cable through the bathroom. On the weekends, 2 of our friends would bring their PCs over and join in. We used to play Doom 2 and Descent coop from beginning to end in marathon sessions. We even managed to shove a network cable through the phone conduit to hook up the guy next door, but it wasn&#039;t as good as having everyone in the same room. It was pretty advanced for 1995-96.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I lived in the dorms while I was in the military, the rooms were set up so that two rooms facing opposite sides of the building shared a common bathroom in between. My friend and I switched rooms with other people until we got attached rooms and we ran our network cable through the bathroom. On the weekends, 2 of our friends would bring their PCs over and join in. We used to play Doom 2 and Descent coop from beginning to end in marathon sessions. We even managed to shove a network cable through the phone conduit to hook up the guy next door, but it wasn&#8217;t as good as having everyone in the same room. It was pretty advanced for 1995-96.</p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alejandro Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I fiend of mine in grad school days had a gamers cyber cafe, and after close it was for us to play lan all the way no online, pure plain lan games, every time a diferent one or a favorite one. CS, StarCraft, Mechwarrior, Red Alert. Diablo 2, almost all good stuff. good old times. I whish I had a basement like that loyd, Kudos for that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I fiend of mine in grad school days had a gamers cyber cafe, and after close it was for us to play lan all the way no online, pure plain lan games, every time a diferent one or a favorite one. CS, StarCraft, Mechwarrior, Red Alert. Diablo 2, almost all good stuff. good old times. I whish I had a basement like that loyd, Kudos for that!</p>
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		<title>By: trip1ex</title>
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		<dc:creator>trip1ex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell yeah.  Much prefer LAN gaming in person to online gaming.  Sounds like a sweet setup you have there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell yeah.  Much prefer LAN gaming in person to online gaming.  Sounds like a sweet setup you have there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Herdt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Herdt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loyd,

I have similar feelings towards on-line gaming.  If you have the luxury of being able to hold regular LAN parties who wouldn&#039;t pick that over on-line.

I also wanted to thank you for the MASS EFFECT reference you made a few posts back.  Somehow this game slipped by me.  I picked it up and am looking forward to completing my 2nd play through of the game.

Best Regards, Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loyd,</p>
<p>I have similar feelings towards on-line gaming.  If you have the luxury of being able to hold regular LAN parties who wouldn&#8217;t pick that over on-line.</p>
<p>I also wanted to thank you for the MASS EFFECT reference you made a few posts back.  Somehow this game slipped by me.  I picked it up and am looking forward to completing my 2nd play through of the game.</p>
<p>Best Regards, Jim</p>
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